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by Lily de Cuir
(Australia)

Hello Everyone,

No, you have not accessed an x-rated sex website, lol....

Seriously, I stumbled across a very interesting website today while I was reading a thread on ATS (Above Top Secret), re the pineal gland.

This man, Tom Kenyon, is quite interesting and wears many hats, he is a scientist, psychotherapist, sound healer and a musician among other things.

What drew me to his website was a short 5 minute sound healing that cleanses/activates the pineal gland (flouride in our water calcifies our pineal glands). He offers this sound healing for free. Hey, anything that can give us the edge in these crazy times is worth trying.

In addition there are another 5 sound healings/meditations you can download for free.

(I think I know who will be interested in this and who will respond. I won't give the names...so, let's see if my pineal gland is working, lol...)

Web Guy, when I wrote that I read 'somewhere' about the sleep problems with the pole shift, it was from Tom Kenyon, although I didn't know it at the time, it was forwarded to another website. Of course, I know Levi has mentioned this also. But his exact termanology was spot on for me - go to Hathers messages - his last blog re Haiti and the Chaotic node. He explains the sleep problems to a T.

This link below will take you straight to the page where you can download sound healings for free. At least download the 5 minute pineal gland cleansing/activation. Um, erm, I must warn you, it's a bit different...but I'm going to give it a go anyway!

Be sure to look at the rest of the site and not just the 'sound-gifts'

Tom Kenyon
Enjoy!

Lily

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Mar 01, 2010

Hippy Shit
by: Lily

Well Andrew, I would like to know how you go with it....

I've been listening to it for a while now, no adverse reactions with me.

I've been very mindful of the responses that are not OK with it though. And I am very respectful to others feelings about it.

If you don't feel right with it, don't go there.

For me however, I am quite joyful with it. Been having some strange night dreams, not sleeping/not awake - somehere inbetween, but what's new?

Then I have some wonderful nights when I conk out entirely and wake up like a new person...

So I don't know what the heck is going on..

Cheers,
Lily

Feb 28, 2010

Pineal Attunement
by: Andrew

Finally I have started listening to the Activate your Pineal Gland Attunement.

Now, I am having quite strange, intense dreams already. I think from high dose vitamin C and the pole shift? but I will give you all some feedback on how I go over the next few days after listening to the Attunement.

So far, to the "normal" person this may sound like a whole bunch of "hippy shit" but I quite enjoy the sounds myself. Quite relaxing...

Feb 25, 2010

Channelled Messages
by: Lily

Hi Andrew,

I certainly could resonate with that message. A lot of things rang the bell for me.

There are a lot of channelled messages on the net these days. While I don't dismiss them, discernment is well advised I think.

The dark ones have very cunning ways, is all I will say. Just got to trust your own intuition. Don't take anything at face value.

I have 3 mental boxes when I read things:

1 box is where I put something I intuitively believe but where it can't be confirmed.

2nd box is for utter bullshit

3rd box is where I absolutely know it's true - no proof is needed nor wanted - the most important box.

3 is a good number. For me I always keep things in boxes of 3.

Cheers,
Lily

Feb 24, 2010

Love frequency 528
by: Andrew

Hi guys,

You wanted more on the love frequency 528HZ?

Another synchronicity bought me to find this, so in saying, we should all be very careful to keep our thoughts of a positive nature as they are manifesting at a particularly fast rate.

Surprisingly I saw the number 333 on a vehicles number plate this morning, and took it as a message from my personal guides. I opened my email this morning(at work, shhhhhhhhhh, dont tell) and found this article.

I read the first message from Shekina Rose, dated 22 Feb 2010, Cosmic Pulse Ascension Symptoms for 2010, and found it on this particular message with 333 being part of it.

Have a read through the messages and let me know if you resonate or feel connected to what she is saying.

I know it may sound all Love and Light but Love and Light is what has brought us together in the first place. We all have our part to play.

Shekina Rose and The Blue RayTransmissions

Also check out Shekina's personal website and the meaning of numbers.

www.shekinaspeaks.com

Have fun...

Feb 21, 2010

Weirdo stuff
by: Lily

Hello Everyone,

Carole, I am so sorry you are experiencing these difficulties.

As to weird dreams, this would take me pages to write, but let me try to shorten it:

In my dream I am cloned, two parts of me, there is also a movie I watch (in the dream) which replicates the cloning. In part of the dream I am soul-less, with blank eyes, but the end of the dream has me being loved for the real me, the person cloned was not the real me and I recognised that in the dream - as in lucid dreaming.

You are right Carole, anyone not feeling comfortable with these things should not pursue them.

For me personally, I've not had any adverse reactions. I listen to the sound healings daily. In fact my perception is becoming really sharp.

I think I've scared a few kids recently - I know they are snooping around and I've spoken to them behind my fence. Lol....they think I don't know they are there. He he, lots of fun - they probably think I'm a witch...

Would love to know more of any reactions to the sound healings.

Off on my broomstick for now.
Whoosh...
Lily

WG - Glad you've got the book darling, us old things - we've been there, done that...enjoy.

Feb 20, 2010

Sound waves and pole shifts..
by: Carole (UK)

I just picked up on this topic. I have been meditating for a few years now - it actually saved my life. I think I would have ended it all by now if I hadnt found some way to find some peace in my life.

Fristly there are many brainwave technologies - yes (ChrisH UK), please be very careful, we are not naturally equiped mentally or physically just to adopt these into our bodies.

I listened to Tom's track - now I am super sensitive to sound - and this gave me total ear ache in the end after several attempts. I am also left and right brain equally balanced so I am used to sound and senstations coming at me from both sides. This also means my logic does not take over my creative side and visa versa.

Please dont try and force your mental state into an area you are not comfortable with - the effect if you are not prepared is like taking drugs - you can lose the sense of reality very quickly.

You can simulate your Pinaeal Gland with normal meditation - a self meditative trance - you can still bring your self back out very quickly if needed (also others around you).

Secondly - which Levi has also commented on is how the body to sensitive people is stuggling with this shift. I am in so much pain it is unbelivable - and no one can work out why. It always starts in the early hours of the morning, and at the moment, there is nothing I can do to get rid of it, just getting worse.

Everthing electrical is breaking down around me - my dreams are getting exceptionally strange and now I am having visions on whats going on in my friends lives - not nice ones either.

But even when I close my eyes I get no peace - I see eyes looking at me, dark covered faces with such grief it makes a horror film look like a fairy tail.

I meditate on my Pineal Gland and its throbbing like a red hot crystal glowing in the dark - active it is... its my radar, my intuition... but its also picking up something I really cant understand.. so back to the pole shift ???

(PS Web Guy - Karma Sutra !! think your hormones went in to over drive !!)

Web Guy:

It's Okay. Got the book now.

Also to remind what Levi says about mind experimentation. There is ancient saying of the first rule of 'Magik'.

'Know Thyself'

Mind initiation can be a frightening experience. If your mind isn't strong enough to deal with some horrors you encounter it could break.

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I just picked up on this topic. I have been meditating for a few years now - it actually saved my life. I think I would have ended it all by now if I hadnt found some way to find some peace in my life. Fristly there are many brainwave technologies - yes (ChrisH UK), please be very careful, we are not naturally equiped mentally or physically just to adopt these into our bodies. I listened to Tom's track - now I am super sensitive to sound - and this gave me total ear ache in the end after several attempts. I am also left and right brain equally balanced so I am used to sound and senstations coming at me from both sides. This also means my logic does not take over my creative side and visa versa. Please dont try and force your mental state into an area you are not comfortable with - the effect if you are not prepared is like taking drugs - you can lose the sense of reality very quickly. You can simulate your Pinaeal Gland with normal meditation - a self meditative trance - you can still bring your self back out very quickly if needed (also others around you). Secondly - which Levi has also commented on is how the body to sensitive people is stuggling with this shift. I am in so much pain it is unbelivable - and no one can work out why. It always starts in the early hours of the morning, and at the moment, there is nothing I can do to get rid of it, just getting worse. Everthing electrical is breaking down around me - my dreams are getting exceptionally strange and now I am having visions on whats going on in my friends lives - not nice ones either. But even when I close my eyes I get no peace - I see eyes looking at me, dark covered faces with such grief it makes a horror film look like a fairy tail. I meditate on my Pineal Gland and its throbbing like a red hot crystal glowing in the dark - active it is... its my radar, my intuition... but its also picking up something I really cant understand.. so back to the pole shift ??? (PS Web Guy - Karma Sutra !! think your hormones went in to over drive !!) Web Guy: It's Okay. Got the book now. Also to remind what Levi says about mind experimentation. There is ancient saying of the first rule of 'Magik'. 'Know Thyself' Mind initiation can be a frightening experience. If your mind isn't strong enough to deal with some horrors you encounter it could break.

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Feb 19, 2010

Vitamin C
by: Pops46

Josh
I still have another Month before any kind of riding will happen. This global warming dumped too much snow and cold weather in New Hampshire this year.
Lily
You're welcome to come along anytime.

Feb 18, 2010

Don't apologise!
by: Lily

Hey Guys,

No need to apologise. I think I've derailed some threads in the past too. I think it's great to watch a post growing organically in all different directions. It's a great, articulate and intelligent discussion with divergent viewpoints. Would be a very boring old world if we all thought the same. Anyway, we all learn from each other. No one is right or wrong.

I emailed Tom Kenyon to ask if he would like to comment on our discussion. Just have to wait and see I guess.

Hey Pops, you got a side car? I'll hop on for the ride too - we can all go tripping together while activating our pineal glands through our IPods....woo hoo...

Cheers,
Lily

Web Guy:

If your friend Tom does want to respond and if he has something interesting to say we can give him the main blog to get his message across. (If it's good)

Feb 18, 2010

Pops46
by: Josh

Hey Pops46, sounds like that 'trip' was fun. Pun intended :)

Next time take me with ya, I haven't been able to jump on my bike for about a month due to the enomous amounts of rain and the recent drop of snow here in NC. Just melted and weather is sustaining around 40's and 50's. Soon I will be all over it and a cross country trip sounds like a plan.

Maybe I'll post a picture on here one day of my baby. We are in cages all the time, even in our own home and the motorcycle gives me a sense of freedom that I think everyone should be able to enjoy no matter what it is. Find your peace, find your freedom, even if it's just for a few hours.

Feb 18, 2010

Spiral Effect
by: Josh

We always seem to come full circle in a lot of our research don't we. It's clear Sanat is referenced in many different subject areas.

I would like to think that we are all partially right and partially wrong at the same time. There's that duality thing again... No one resource disclosing 100 percent fact.

I think hitting all these different sources of information only gives us an advantage in finding a better hypothesis or an idea of truth by weeding out what's not backed up between the sources of information. Then again a lot is lost in translation or hidden too. Even that doesn't make it true either. On behalf of Levi there wasn't too many people screaming our economy was gonna be in trouble either, but that was future prediction back then not a reference to history, or was it? Is history our shadow coming back to slap us in the face again until we learn to buy a facemask?

I commend all that have made an attempt to learn with an open mind and are willing to discuss it.

Yeah, I'm sorry too we butchered your post Lily :) We just opened a can of worms and they got away from us. Most comments I've made on any one post, it's been great discussing all of it with you guys and gals.

Web Guy Note:

No need to apologize to Lily. That is what she is good at. Opening a can of worms to stimulate a discussion and awaken us all.

(And she's not even out of first gear yet.. )

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We always seem to come full circle in a lot of our research don't we. It's clear Sanat is referenced in many different subject areas. I would like to think that we are all partially right and partially wrong at the same time. There's that duality thing again... No one resource disclosing 100 percent fact. I think hitting all these different sources of information only gives us an advantage in finding a better hypothesis or an idea of truth by weeding out what's not backed up between the sources of information. Then again a lot is lost in translation or hidden too. Even that doesn't make it true either. On behalf of Levi there wasn't too many people screaming our economy was gonna be in trouble either, but that was future prediction back then not a reference to history, or was it? Is history our shadow coming back to slap us in the face again until we learn to buy a facemask? I commend all that have made an attempt to learn with an open mind and are willing to discuss it. Yeah, I'm sorry too we butchered your post Lily :) We just opened a can of worms and they got away from us. Most comments I've made on any one post, it's been great discussing all of it with you guys and gals. Web Guy Note: No need to apologize to Lily. That is what she is good at. Opening a can of worms to stimulate a discussion and awaken us all. (And she's not even out of first gear yet.. )

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Feb 18, 2010

more on Sanat
by: ChrisH(UK)

I feel somewhat guilty of diverting Lily's original post into a completely different direction....didn't mean to do that! I suppose it is just that my visit to her recommended site threw up a whole new ball-game for me. Maybe this ought to be a separate thread, but I don't want to tread on WG's toes.

I have started to look through a huge array of Google links concerning this Sanat Kumatra. Each one tends to either add to the information, or confuse it further.

Some say S.K is the "true" Lord of our planet and all religions have developed from him as a source; others claim that he came from Venus millions of years ago, accompanied by 144,000 supporters.

In Theosophical circles, he is referred to as an "ascended master", along with Gautama Buddha, Jesus ,Maitreya (there's a recent headline for you); Confucius, Enoch, Saint Germain, and a whole string of others.

Kenyon's Hathors (they apparently have Egyptian links) clearly subscribe to the notion that Sanat Kumara is a force for good. Unfortunately for us, we aren't on the receiving end of those channeled messages to be able to agree or disagree. Many other websites, notably those of new-age sites and rather odd-ball style churches, similarly believe Sanat Kumara to be like a "cap-stone", below whom one finds the main figureheads of our current religions.

This site, www.letusreason.org/NAM19.htm also contains quite a bit of text covering Sanat Kumara, and how various writers regard the name as merely another name for Satan. At the risk of being done for lifting text from another website, here's a snip:

New Age Leaders, including Masters of the Illuminati, worship the Lord of this World, whose name is Sanat Kumara (The Secret of the
Illuminati) Bailey goes on to explain that Sanat Kumara is the "life and the forming intelligence", presiding over the Council of Shamballa [the Heaven according to New Age doctrine]. (The New Age Dictionary p.172)
Further, Sanat Kumara is "the eternal youth from the Plant Venus. Lucifer is known in occultic lore as Venus. Therefore, Sanat Kumara is merely
another name for Satan or Lucifer. (Cumbey, Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow)......"

I don't want to be accused of cherry-picking paragraphs, it's just that the website is very long, with a lot of writing in it. Similarly, it is only one of a number of sites that I have been perusing during the last day or so. Here's another;

It takes an awful lot of digesting; I don't pretend to reject all or accept all. It is
very difficult to read ANY thing on this topic with a totally neutral mind, because it is digging so deep. Levi says we are having many truths withheld from us; problem is, until they're revealed, we don't know what they are;we can only guess.

Don't worry. Start a new link with this subject.

Web Guy Note:

Sorry but the Lucifer connection: The NAM 'Light' experience has been taken down by it's server so I have had to remove it here.

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I feel somewhat guilty of diverting Lily's original post into a completely different direction....didn't mean to do that! I suppose it is just that my visit to her recommended site threw up a whole new ball-game for me. Maybe this ought to be a separate thread, but I don't want to tread on WG's toes. I have started to look through a huge array of Google links concerning this Sanat Kumatra. Each one tends to either add to the information, or confuse it further. Some say S.K is the "true" Lord of our planet and all religions have developed from him as a source; others claim that he came from Venus millions of years ago, accompanied by 144,000 supporters. In Theosophical circles, he is referred to as an "ascended master", along with Gautama Buddha, Jesus ,Maitreya (there's a recent headline for you); Confucius, Enoch, Saint Germain, and a whole string of others. Kenyon's Hathors (they apparently have Egyptian links) clearly subscribe to the notion that Sanat Kumara is a force for good. Unfortunately for us, we aren't on the receiving end of those channeled messages to be able to agree or disagree. Many other websites, notably those of new-age sites and rather odd-ball style churches, similarly believe Sanat Kumara to be like a "cap-stone", below whom one finds the main figureheads of our current religions. This site, www.letusreason.org/NAM19.htm also contains quite a bit of text covering Sanat Kumara, and how various writers regard the name as merely another name for Satan. At the risk of being done for lifting text from another website, here's a snip: New Age Leaders, including Masters of the Illuminati, worship the Lord of this World, whose name is Sanat Kumara (The Secret of the Illuminati) Bailey goes on to explain that Sanat Kumara is the "life and the forming intelligence", presiding over the Council of Shamballa [the Heaven according to New Age doctrine]. (The New Age Dictionary p.172) Further, Sanat Kumara is "the eternal youth from the Plant Venus. Lucifer is known in occultic lore as Venus. Therefore, Sanat Kumara is merely another name for Satan or Lucifer. (Cumbey, Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow)......" I don't want to be accused of cherry-picking paragraphs, it's just that the website is very long, with a lot of writing in it. Similarly, it is only one of a number of sites that I have been perusing during the last day or so. Here's another; It takes an awful lot of digesting; I don't pretend to reject all or accept all. It is very difficult to read ANY thing on this topic with a totally neutral mind, because it is digging so deep. Levi says we are having many truths withheld from us; problem is, until they're revealed, we don't know what they are;we can only guess. Don't worry. Start a new link with this subject. Web Guy Note: Sorry but the Lucifer connection: The NAM 'Light' experience has been taken down by it's server so I have had to remove it here.

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Feb 18, 2010

Vitamin C
by: Pops46

I have been on a double dose of Vitamin C for 2 weeks now. Last night was one of the most lucid dreams I have had in a very long time.

It was just a good dream about a cross country motorcycle trip with some friends, and my Mom and Dad were in it too (both deacesed).

I didn't want to wake to the alarm this morning just to stay in the dream a bit longer, but I woke up feeling full of energy and was able to remember almost of the dream even now. So there just may be something to the Vitamin C theory. Give it a try there really is nothing to lose.

Feb 17, 2010

Sanat Kumara
by: Lily

Hi All,

Andrew, you beat me to it, I was about to write almost the same words. All I can say is that this dude gets around...he (assuming it's a he), is associated with Buddhism, Hinduism, Matreya, Sufi Muslims, Jainism, including Luficerism and Satanism and probably many more 'isms'. I have read also that he goes by about 50 other names. Also that of Jesus (Sananda).

Here is one link:

www.crystalinks.com/sanatkumara.

(WG - Sorry Link Has Been Removed. Not the first either about this subject. Suspicious)

Josh, I agree with your last post too. Well said.

If you are subscribed to the private blog, there is a plethora of info in the private library. Otherwise just google 'Sanat Kumara and Satan'. Heaps of info.

As with anything use your own discernment and intuition. I research heaps of things and still don't have a set opinion until I get a feeling that something all fits together from loads of other sources.

I just like his music and appreciate his contribution to humanity with his sound healings. He is obviously a profoundly spirital being. As for the Hathers, mmm...quite interesting, nothing more nothing less. It is clearly true for Mr Kenyon. Is it fact? I have no idea.

How about I contact Mr Kenyon to see if he would like to clarify anything. He may not be interested to respond, but I can only ask. This could be interesting...

Cheers,
Lily

Web Guy Note:

Crystalslinks is also on the Link Page.
I was really getting into this thread until it hit me it's not Kama Sutra ya'll talking about.

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Hi All, Andrew, you beat me to it, I was about to write almost the same words. All I can say is that this dude gets around...he (assuming it's a he), is associated with Buddhism, Hinduism, Matreya, Sufi Muslims, Jainism, including Luficerism and Satanism and probably many more 'isms'. I have read also that he goes by about 50 other names. Also that of Jesus (Sananda). Here is one link: www.crystalinks.com/sanatkumara. (WG - Sorry Link Has Been Removed. Not the first either about this subject. Suspicious) Josh, I agree with your last post too. Well said. If you are subscribed to the private blog, there is a plethora of info in the private library. Otherwise just google 'Sanat Kumara and Satan'. Heaps of info. As with anything use your own discernment and intuition. I research heaps of things and still don't have a set opinion until I get a feeling that something all fits together from loads of other sources. I just like his music and appreciate his contribution to humanity with his sound healings. He is obviously a profoundly spirital being. As for the Hathers, mmm...quite interesting, nothing more nothing less. It is clearly true for Mr Kenyon. Is it fact? I have no idea. How about I contact Mr Kenyon to see if he would like to clarify anything. He may not be interested to respond, but I can only ask. This could be interesting... Cheers, Lily Web Guy Note: Crystalslinks is also on the Link Page. I was really getting into this thread until it hit me it's not Kama Sutra ya'll talking about.

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Feb 17, 2010

A suggestion
by: Andrew

I have a suggestion for Celest and ChrisH,

Read more on Sanat Kumara and the Ascended Masters.

There is alot of info out there but as with almost all info on the net or elsewhere, there are those who wish us not to know the real truth on matters. Some will take us further from the truth, but once again as said many times on these pages, use your own instinct or discernment. What feels right. But...Sometimes if we dont feel right about something it might pay to ask more questions to find out why we feel this way.

Maybe then you can go back to the article/s you both read on the Hathors and see how this makes you feel.

Here is a link on many channelings, articles etc
Once again use your intuition on what you feel may or may not feel right for you.

www,spiritlibrary.com/

Feb 17, 2010

Hathors / Sanat Kumara
by: Josh

Can you guys post your findings on why you think that Sanat is a reference to Satan. I'm not seeing it.

Apparently Sanat is referenced in Buddism and other religions that I have not studied. Other things I'm seeing is that this is or was a leader from the planet of love "Venus" and that Jesus also referenced as Sananda is the son or offspring of this person. A civilization of 144,000.

I would just like to get a better understanding and see what you guys are seeing.

I just think people are falling for the old religious dogmas that are steering them aware from a greater understanding. Your shadow is not your enemy, it's part of you. It's part of the whole. If the above statements are true then why would anyone want to worship the son of Satan???

Some would also say that in being catholic or whatever that is exactly what your are doing but are told otherwise. Who else drinks wine that is a ritual representing the drinking of blood?

Other than that I respect your feelings/actions to not participate in what your not comfortable with. I'm just looking for a better understanding. I am new to this Hathors thing.

Somebody back me up here that knows more than I do.

Levi Note:

Indeed there is much disinformation to mislead from the truth.

If I say SWASTIKA: You will think Hitler, Gestapo and Nazi. The Swastika represents evil right?

Yet this has been conditioned into you because of the last world war only sixty years or so ago.

It was adapted by Hitler et al because they were very heavily into the occult.

But the Swastika is in fact an ancient 'Good Luck symbol from the Neolithic period which can be found in Buddhism and Hinduism culture including Janism, an ancient religion of India representing the path of non violence and peace.

It was a common global symbol for eons until the Nazis managed to stigmatize it.

This is the hidden hand of the elite who need you to nothing and what you do know is wrong.

You cannot judge a book by it's cover alone.
You must first read what is within.

On The Wind...

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Can you guys post your findings on why you think that Sanat is a reference to Satan. I'm not seeing it. Apparently Sanat is referenced in Buddism and other religions that I have not studied. Other things I'm seeing is that this is or was a leader from the planet of love "Venus" and that Jesus also referenced as Sananda is the son or offspring of this person. A civilization of 144,000. I would just like to get a better understanding and see what you guys are seeing. I just think people are falling for the old religious dogmas that are steering them aware from a greater understanding. Your shadow is not your enemy, it's part of you. It's part of the whole. If the above statements are true then why would anyone want to worship the son of Satan??? Some would also say that in being catholic or whatever that is exactly what your are doing but are told otherwise. Who else drinks wine that is a ritual representing the drinking of blood? Other than that I respect your feelings/actions to not participate in what your not comfortable with. I'm just looking for a better understanding. I am new to this Hathors thing. Somebody back me up here that knows more than I do. Levi Note: Indeed there is much disinformation to mislead from the truth. If I say SWASTIKA: You will think Hitler, Gestapo and Nazi. The Swastika represents evil right? Yet this has been conditioned into you because of the last world war only sixty years or so ago. It was adapted by Hitler et al because they were very heavily into the occult. But the Swastika is in fact an ancient 'Good Luck symbol from the Neolithic period which can be found in Buddhism and Hinduism culture including Janism, an ancient religion of India representing the path of non violence and peace. It was a common global symbol for eons until the Nazis managed to stigmatize it. This is the hidden hand of the elite who need you to nothing and what you do know is wrong. You cannot judge a book by it's cover alone. You must first read what is within. On The Wind...

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Feb 17, 2010

To be aware
by: Celest (UK)

I totally agree with you Chris(H) I read up on that website too and I didn't feel too happy with it either. Also, I feel that I've got to say that 'Sanat' is an anagram of Satan, I feel a lot of us are just trying to or starting to walk and don't want anybody to come a cropper.

I just want to make sure my influences are as positive as possible. I appreciate what you are doing Lily and enjoy reading yours and everyones blogs.

Levi Note:

Satan is indeed an anagram of Satan.

But as the church once pointed out to me that Levi is an anagram of EVIL and also VILE.

I pointed back that it is also an anagram of LIVE and VEIL. As in lifting the VEIL of lies given to us on a daily basis as well as the lies of the church themselves.

They fell silent and have done so ever since.

Feb 16, 2010

Quick Recap / Final Note
by: Josh

Great discussion here by the way.

I had posted an article about the pineal gland on the blog before but it didn't touch on the things we've discussed here.

We've discussed vitamins, Vitamin C in particular but there are other vitamins and minerals that may have similar results as well. I think one I came across was skate oil. How well these work is unknown to me but you get the point. I would like to think water would play an important part here as it always does when we are talking about the health of the human body.

Aside from that now you have frequencies more of a technological approach. There are binaural beats, monoaural, and Isochronic. Isochronic or Iso Tones are supposed to be binaural beats on steriods as it incorporates a rythm no just tones. I think the rythm is important but I can't really explain that clearly without going back to some things I've touched on.

Personally when it comes to the body I think natural is always the way to go, but at the same time we are discussing 2 different things here. Trying to cleanse or heal the pineal gland so that it may operate like it should or better, and then tapping into the science of it and trying to utilize these frequencies to assist us in altering our state of conciousness. Which we've stated to be careful with what your using and try to find out what it's actually doing. I think here it would help to have a frequency legend.

Here is a site that claims to tap into certain frequencies for certain results, not just the basic ones listed previously as those are a basic range of frequencies.

www.Unexplainable Store

That's why I had brought up 528 love freq. Which frequency is being used when a psychic is tapping in would be greatly helpful in this area.

Maybe some input from Levi in this respect would be helpful. It's said we all have the ability so why can others do it while the rest of us struggle. It could be said that it's like a muscle and we don't use it and we have to work it out or practice, well what exercise machine do I need to get on? Or what's the drill I should be practicing? Another thing to ponder is why so many different aspects of the psychic. One sees, one hears, and another feels. Perhaps all of the above.

Wouldn't it be nice to actually 'know' what works and what doesn't there's a lot of information out there and it seems everyone has a different technique to accomplish the same or similar result.

Oh and I forgot to mention drugs. Psychodelics and the sort, but I think most people are hesitant to go this route. You have a magical mushroom in history. Terrance McKenna did a lot of drug exploring maybe better to look at his outlook on that.

Good luck to all in trying to found out works best for you, and report back if you have any success.

For what it's worth, more of my 2 Cents.

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Great discussion here by the way. I had posted an article about the pineal gland on the blog before but it didn't touch on the things we've discussed here. We've discussed vitamins, Vitamin C in particular but there are other vitamins and minerals that may have similar results as well. I think one I came across was skate oil. How well these work is unknown to me but you get the point. I would like to think water would play an important part here as it always does when we are talking about the health of the human body. Aside from that now you have frequencies more of a technological approach. There are binaural beats, monoaural, and Isochronic. Isochronic or Iso Tones are supposed to be binaural beats on steriods as it incorporates a rythm no just tones. I think the rythm is important but I can't really explain that clearly without going back to some things I've touched on. Personally when it comes to the body I think natural is always the way to go, but at the same time we are discussing 2 different things here. Trying to cleanse or heal the pineal gland so that it may operate like it should or better, and then tapping into the science of it and trying to utilize these frequencies to assist us in altering our state of conciousness. Which we've stated to be careful with what your using and try to find out what it's actually doing. I think here it would help to have a frequency legend. Here is a site that claims to tap into certain frequencies for certain results, not just the basic ones listed previously as those are a basic range of frequencies. <B><a href="http://store.unexplainable.net/" target="_blank">www.Unexplainable Store</a></B> That's why I had brought up 528 love freq. Which frequency is being used when a psychic is tapping in would be greatly helpful in this area. Maybe some input from Levi in this respect would be helpful. It's said we all have the ability so why can others do it while the rest of us struggle. It could be said that it's like a muscle and we don't use it and we have to work it out or practice, well what exercise machine do I need to get on? Or what's the drill I should be practicing? Another thing to ponder is why so many different aspects of the psychic. One sees, one hears, and another feels. Perhaps all of the above. Wouldn't it be nice to actually 'know' what works and what doesn't there's a lot of information out there and it seems everyone has a different technique to accomplish the same or similar result. Oh and I forgot to mention drugs. Psychodelics and the sort, but I think most people are hesitant to go this route. You have a magical mushroom in history. Terrance McKenna did a lot of drug exploring maybe better to look at his outlook on that. Good luck to all in trying to found out works best for you, and report back if you have any success. For what it's worth, more of my 2 Cents.

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Feb 16, 2010

Just need 2b careful
by: ChrisH(UK)

I agree there is a dual nature to all things. The methods of using music and other sounds to stimulate the brain have been known of for some years and, in essence, I acknowledge that there are "good" uses to which these may be put; i.e for positive purposes such as better health, better sleep, etc etc. Our brains are readily programmed by such approaches (although I understand some people are more receptive than others, as with hypnosis).

The "Library" links that are available to P.B subscribers are full of many negative examples of brain-control....some of them absolutely horrifying. This is the "other side" of the coin, so to speak, in the same vein as Einstein's formulae creating WMDs.

This was not so much the main concern, rather that the website author's Hathor "connections" appeared to have (in my opinion) some uncomfortable links.

If I'm going to allow my brain to be fed with stimulating music or other sounds, then I need to feel happy with the source that has created it/them. In this instance, I did not, having read through more of the website beforehand. I acknowledge that those who do feel happy with a source are at liberty to make their own choices; but we need to remember how vulnerable we can be, when dealing with programming the brain.

An element of "trust" is required; and at this point, I did not trust the website concerned. Perhaps, when the world has passed through its many changes and is starting to settle down, there will be more trust in the use of these technologies; I'm personally happy to wait a bit longer.

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I agree there is a dual nature to all things. The methods of using music and other sounds to stimulate the brain have been known of for some years and, in essence, I acknowledge that there are "good" uses to which these may be put; i.e for positive purposes such as better health, better sleep, etc etc. Our brains are readily programmed by such approaches (although I understand some people are more receptive than others, as with hypnosis). The "Library" links that are available to P.B subscribers are full of many negative examples of brain-control....some of them absolutely horrifying. This is the "other side" of the coin, so to speak, in the same vein as Einstein's formulae creating WMDs. This was not so much the main concern, rather that the website author's Hathor "connections" appeared to have (in my opinion) some uncomfortable links. If I'm going to allow my brain to be fed with stimulating music or other sounds, then I need to feel happy with the source that has created it/them. In this instance, I did not, having read through more of the website beforehand. I acknowledge that those who do feel happy with a source are at liberty to make their own choices; but we need to remember how vulnerable we can be, when dealing with programming the brain. An element of "trust" is required; and at this point, I did not trust the website concerned. Perhaps, when the world has passed through its many changes and is starting to settle down, there will be more trust in the use of these technologies; I'm personally happy to wait a bit longer.

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Feb 15, 2010

Living In Duality
by: Josh

I'm not here to stand up for anothers work but maybe put a few things into perspective. You are good to observe and be wary of anything that's new to you, it's healthy.

With every technological advance we have made in history there is always a good use and a bad use, hence the duality of things. Positive/negative, Black/white, Good/Evil, Daylight/Nightime.

If negative frequencies or suggestive messeges are used then it is what it is, but the same methods can be used for positive results as well.

I tread lightly on the satan thing for one reason only. The lies we have been told in the past are meant to keep us in fear or scared to explore things that could actually be for our betterment. How can you do good if you don't know evil. How can you know love or hate if you have never experienced them. Being part of this world is just as much finding out who we are not as to who we are. In some ways, I, and as well as the rest of you should realize that this is who we are. There is good and bad in all of us, but let your free will decide your path and decernment be your guide. If you choose not to use the site listed for it's intented purpose do not discredit them all. I'm sure that the last thing Lily or I wanted to direct anyone towards Devil worship.

But if we love ourselves and there is that duality would you not say that in some ways you worhip God and Satan in the same breathe?

Deep hugh?

I not sure but I don't think Albert Einsteins intended use for his formula's was to create WMD's. But it's not the total and only use for it.

It's not hard to see that most of our technology that could be used for good is twisted for bad or kept from us all together.

Like I said before it would be nice to know more about this technology and it's appropriate use. Each song can hit on a different frequency and there are many of them. I'm sure there is a fequency for negativity otherwise it would be expressed.

Just rambling on with more of my 2 Cents. Truth IS hard to find.

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I'm not here to stand up for anothers work but maybe put a few things into perspective. You are good to observe and be wary of anything that's new to you, it's healthy. With every technological advance we have made in history there is always a good use and a bad use, hence the duality of things. Positive/negative, Black/white, Good/Evil, Daylight/Nightime. If negative frequencies or suggestive messeges are used then it is what it is, but the same methods can be used for positive results as well. I tread lightly on the satan thing for one reason only. The lies we have been told in the past are meant to keep us in fear or scared to explore things that could actually be for our betterment. How can you do good if you don't know evil. How can you know love or hate if you have never experienced them. Being part of this world is just as much finding out who we are not as to who we are. In some ways, I, and as well as the rest of you should realize that this is who we are. There is good and bad in all of us, but let your free will decide your path and decernment be your guide. If you choose not to use the site listed for it's intented purpose do not discredit them all. I'm sure that the last thing Lily or I wanted to direct anyone towards Devil worship. But if we love ourselves and there is that duality would you not say that in some ways you worhip God and Satan in the same breathe? Deep hugh? I not sure but I don't think Albert Einsteins intended use for his formula's was to create WMD's. But it's not the total and only use for it. It's not hard to see that most of our technology that could be used for good is twisted for bad or kept from us all together. Like I said before it would be nice to know more about this technology and it's appropriate use. Each song can hit on a different frequency and there are many of them. I'm sure there is a fequency for negativity otherwise it would be expressed. Just rambling on with more of my 2 Cents. Truth IS hard to find.

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Feb 15, 2010

Not comfortable
by: ChrisH(UK)

I went along to Tom Kenyon's website out of curiosity, after reading Lily's post. I have to confess however that, after reading one or two of the articles, I started to feel very uncomfortable. This is not in any way a reflection on Lily's personal selection of website...nor on anyone else that has read it...but something was bugging me.

I went to the section titled "Hathors" and started reading; some of the articles were certainly interesting, but the one that got my nerves jingling was the one titled "Who are the Hathors?".

In that article, these Hathors (who are channeling messages to Mr Kenyon) claim that they "know Sanat Kumara well". The title Sanat Kumara started ringing alarm bells, and I went back to a few other websites that I'd been reading a day or two previously.

I discovered that Sanat Kumara is a name used for Satan, in Theosophic circles. Tom Kenyon's Hathors claim that this S.K is working for the evolution of consciousness in the solar system.
Well....Levi et al might leap down my throat for making wrong assumptions, but anything connected with Satan gets my skates on, to move fast in the opposite direction. There are other issues as well, that I have dug up, but that would need another thread.

I have a new bunch of unanswered questions. I am going back over Levi's old blogs, to see if I can spot answers. As far as the music tracks on T.K's site are concerned, I think I'll leave well alone.

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I went along to Tom Kenyon's website out of curiosity, after reading Lily's post. I have to confess however that, after reading one or two of the articles, I started to feel very uncomfortable. This is not in any way a reflection on Lily's personal selection of website...nor on anyone else that has read it...but something was bugging me. I went to the section titled "Hathors" and started reading; some of the articles were certainly interesting, but the one that got my nerves jingling was the one titled "Who are the Hathors?". In that article, these Hathors (who are channeling messages to Mr Kenyon) claim that they "know Sanat Kumara well". The title Sanat Kumara started ringing alarm bells, and I went back to a few other websites that I'd been reading a day or two previously. I discovered that Sanat Kumara is a name used for Satan, in Theosophic circles. Tom Kenyon's Hathors claim that this S.K is working for the evolution of consciousness in the solar system. Well....Levi et al might leap down my throat for making wrong assumptions, but anything connected with Satan gets my skates on, to move fast in the opposite direction. There are other issues as well, that I have dug up, but that would need another thread. I have a new bunch of unanswered questions. I am going back over Levi's old blogs, to see if I can spot answers. As far as the music tracks on T.K's site are concerned, I think I'll leave well alone.

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Feb 13, 2010

Meditation
by: Josh

I could swear the other day when I had some time to meditate I heard a faint whisper of my full first name "Joshua". Kinda freaked me out and there went my meditation, but I'll keep trying occasionally to see where it leads.

Didn't really want to talk about it as it's only happened once and don't want to make it sound more that it was, but an interesting experience whether it happens again or not.

When I was finally able to concetrate I got that ringing in my ears/head and decided to foxus on that, as it got stronger, that's when it happen. And educated guess it that maybe I was finally tuning into a higher frequency.

All is speculation until I'm able to repeat or experience something similar.

It is difficult, your mind is constantly running. The trick is turning it off and listening. Each person has their own technique and what works for them, but I think I finally maybe getting somewhere with this.

Still a rookie in this area, but have explored many avenues...Anyone else trying or succeeding, maybe already a natural?

Web Guy Note:

Just a few things I picked up from Levi and co.

About the name. Although your name is Josh. Have you thought that the voice was relating to the Joshua of the Bible? Not religious but know the name is connected to Moses and the Exodus.

Could be a psychic message in there.

Here's a good Biiblical research tool. The home page will give you different versions of the bible.

TBible Gateway.com

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I could swear the other day when I had some time to meditate I heard a faint whisper of my full first name "Joshua". Kinda freaked me out and there went my meditation, but I'll keep trying occasionally to see where it leads. Didn't really want to talk about it as it's only happened once and don't want to make it sound more that it was, but an interesting experience whether it happens again or not. When I was finally able to concetrate I got that ringing in my ears/head and decided to foxus on that, as it got stronger, that's when it happen. And educated guess it that maybe I was finally tuning into a higher frequency. All is speculation until I'm able to repeat or experience something similar. It is difficult, your mind is constantly running. The trick is turning it off and listening. Each person has their own technique and what works for them, but I think I finally maybe getting somewhere with this. Still a rookie in this area, but have explored many avenues...Anyone else trying or succeeding, maybe already a natural? Web Guy Note: Just a few things I picked up from Levi and co. About the name. Although your name is Josh. Have you thought that the voice was relating to the Joshua of the Bible? Not religious but know the name is connected to Moses and the Exodus. Could be a psychic message in there. Here's a good Biiblical research tool. The home page will give you different versions of the bible. <B><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=Joshua&qs_version=KJV" target="_blank">TBible Gateway.com</a></B>

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Feb 12, 2010

Love Frequency 528
by: Lily

Hi Josh,

Just want to say thank you for that info. Checked it out today....never knew about it. You learn something new every day, eh?

Anyway, it led me to download/buy a meditation track and to buy a vaporiser and some meditation oils. (And I am a tight-arse when it comes to spending money in these strange times).

Also, my brother is somewhat of a Zen guru here in Oz, so I am ashamed that I do not meditate, and still can't seem to get it. Perhaps I'm not the only one.

The track I bought is a bit 'trippy', but I like it!

Anyway my house is abuzz with lovely scents and I will go to sleep with my new meditation track.

So thanks Josh!

Cheers,
Lily
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Feb 10, 2010

Love Freq. 528
by: Josh

Thanks Lily, perhaps you give me too much credit or I don't give my self enough. I think because I like to know how things work it helps me dig up information. And I branch out to all different subjects trying to get the big picture as well rather than exhausting just one.

As far as the Love frequency 528...I've come across this a couple times when looking at sound healing and whatnot. But haven't given it too much thought until recently when it came up again looking at the science of frequencies and light/sound vibrations.

If you do a google search for this all kinds of info comes up. Being that I haven't researched it much I can't really give you any good input on the subject. I think if you are familiar with the fact that everything is a frequency vibration your already off to a good start. Everyone here has probably looked at HAARP and how that works so there's an association people can identify with.

The last thing that peaked my interest in the subject is when I saw a picture of what I would assume is frequencies surrounding a circle with triangles in it. At each point a 3 digit number was there, but the cool thing was that for each triangle at its point would have the same 3 digit number flipped around as you go around the circle. It's hard to explain and I have some opinions on it but it's probably best if you just do the same search for 'love frequency 528' and look for images instead of webpages. You'll find it quick. I would like to think it's like a spiritual compass or a guide to sacred geometry. Who knows.

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Thanks Lily, perhaps you give me too much credit or I don't give my self enough. I think because I like to know how things work it helps me dig up information. And I branch out to all different subjects trying to get the big picture as well rather than exhausting just one. As far as the Love frequency 528...I've come across this a couple times when looking at sound healing and whatnot. But haven't given it too much thought until recently when it came up again looking at the science of frequencies and light/sound vibrations. If you do a google search for this all kinds of info comes up. Being that I haven't researched it much I can't really give you any good input on the subject. I think if you are familiar with the fact that everything is a frequency vibration your already off to a good start. Everyone here has probably looked at HAARP and how that works so there's an association people can identify with. The last thing that peaked my interest in the subject is when I saw a picture of what I would assume is frequencies surrounding a circle with triangles in it. At each point a 3 digit number was there, but the cool thing was that for each triangle at its point would have the same 3 digit number flipped around as you go around the circle. It's hard to explain and I have some opinions on it but it's probably best if you just do the same search for 'love frequency 528' and look for images instead of webpages. You'll find it quick. I would like to think it's like a spiritual compass or a guide to sacred geometry. Who knows.

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Feb 10, 2010

Interesting Josh...
by: Lily

Hi Josh and everyone,

You really know your stuff Josh. You should write on here more often.

What you said explains why it didn't work so well with my son and I last night. We shared an ear bud each on my Ipod, but the experience did not work. When I listen by myself with both ear buds in, it works a treat...quite a different experience than listening with one. So what you say makes sense.

'I keep seeing the frequency of Love as 528, but I have no idea whether that's in hertz or how that applies but maybe I'm sending that out to all of you right now :). Perhaps for another discussion...'

Josh, I would love to know more about that...what are you talking about?

By the way, I'm interested as to what other people's experiences have been. I've been lisening to it for a few days now, sometimes 3 or 4 times during the day and again at night. I've had no adverse reaction other than perhaps a more aware state of mind just before I awaken.

Does anyone else have any reactions?

Cheers,
Lily

Feb 10, 2010

Nice Tunes
by: Josh

Checked out the site and went looking for what they were doing and this is something I've checked out before and have some of my own mp3's of basically the same technology.

What they are doing with this music and why they tell you to use headphones is because they are utilizing what's called binaural beats. Really the music in the background may be of some importance for the range of tones but I think its more for relaxation to perform the meditation properly.

What binaural beats are is a musical track that plays one tone in one ear and another in the other ear. Your brains splits the differance and creates a third that didn't exist in the musical track itself. This way you can get your brain to tune into frequencies that you might normally not be able to or only can when meditating or stages during sleep.

Primarily the musical tracks you will find focus around the following frequencies as stated on the site.

delta (0.5 ? 4 HZ). Associated with deep levels of relaxation such as sleep

theta (4 ? 8HZ). Associated with tranquil states of awareness in which vivid internal imagery can often occur

alpha (8- 12 HZ). Relaxed nervous system, ideal for stress management, accelerated learning and mental imagery

beta (12-30 HZ). Associated with waking/alert states of awareness k-complex (30 ? 35HZ). Clarity and sudden states of integration, the ?ah-ha experience?

super high beta (35 ? 150 HZ). Psychodynamic states of awareness

I don't know if I would say this is a type of healing but more of way to assist people into reaching altered states of counciousness while technically still awake. Awake while dreaming. Remember that when your body enters the sleep state at a certain point you pineal gland creates a natural hallucingen called DMT. I think this is why on the site they warn of physcodelic like experiences from constant replay.

If anyone is interested you could probably take a soothing nature music track and download a free tool to create binaural beats yourself. Knowing what frequencies to use would be important if you want them to work though.

I keep seeing the frequency of Love as 528, but I have no idea whether that's in hertz or how that applies but maybe I'm sending that out to all of you right now :). Perhaps for another discussion...

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Checked out the site and went looking for what they were doing and this is something I've checked out before and have some of my own mp3's of basically the same technology. What they are doing with this music and why they tell you to use headphones is because they are utilizing what's called binaural beats. Really the music in the background may be of some importance for the range of tones but I think its more for relaxation to perform the meditation properly. What binaural beats are is a musical track that plays one tone in one ear and another in the other ear. Your brains splits the differance and creates a third that didn't exist in the musical track itself. This way you can get your brain to tune into frequencies that you might normally not be able to or only can when meditating or stages during sleep. Primarily the musical tracks you will find focus around the following frequencies as stated on the site. delta (0.5 ? 4 HZ). Associated with deep levels of relaxation such as sleep theta (4 ? 8HZ). Associated with tranquil states of awareness in which vivid internal imagery can often occur alpha (8- 12 HZ). Relaxed nervous system, ideal for stress management, accelerated learning and mental imagery beta (12-30 HZ). Associated with waking/alert states of awareness k-complex (30 ? 35HZ). Clarity and sudden states of integration, the ?ah-ha experience? super high beta (35 ? 150 HZ). Psychodynamic states of awareness I don't know if I would say this is a type of healing but more of way to assist people into reaching altered states of counciousness while technically still awake. Awake while dreaming. Remember that when your body enters the sleep state at a certain point you pineal gland creates a natural hallucingen called DMT. I think this is why on the site they warn of physcodelic like experiences from constant replay. If anyone is interested you could probably take a soothing nature music track and download a free tool to create binaural beats yourself. Knowing what frequencies to use would be important if you want them to work though. I keep seeing the frequency of Love as 528, but I have no idea whether that's in hertz or how that applies but maybe I'm sending that out to all of you right now :). Perhaps for another discussion... Just more of my 2Cents.

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Feb 09, 2010

Sound Healing
by: Lily

Hi everyone,

I agree you need good speakers, or headphones, when I listened to it on my crappy desktop speakers, it was pretty bad, but on my Ipod it's great. I also downloaded one of the sound meditations and listen to both when going to sleep. The 5 minute one sets the tone, then the 30 minute one sends me off to sleep like a baby - deep, good sleep. If you're having problems with sleep, give it a whirl.

That's interesting about the Vit C, didn't know that. I also have been having some 'insights' or 'precognition' just before coming fully awake.
Interesting....

Cheers,
Lily

Feb 08, 2010

Vitamin C
by: Andrew

I have been taking a high dose of vitamin C for a couple of months now and yes, my dreams have been more intense and remmemorible. I think it is one vitamin we can take alot of and not have any negative effect on our health, as with most vitamins.

Cheers also to Lily for the link, I will listen to it ASAP.

P.S. I had a dream last night about ridiculous amounts of snow falling on New York, with people boarding up their windows (either to keep the snow out, or intruders due to looting)
I had a very lucid or intense dream about the World Trade Towers being attacked also before it happened.

Check out Levi's latest slog on the Snow-maggedon happening on the east coast of USA. I think this is gonna be big!

Feb 08, 2010

Vitamina C
by: Anonymous

Hi,

Another thing a person can do to help with cleaning that gland is to take some high dosage vitamin C.

I've tried it, and lucid dreams do increase, and I've talked to others who've tried this same thing.

Vitamin C does help.

Sancho

Feb 08, 2010

Thank you
by: Byron Alblas

Dear Lily,

Thank you for the link.
It leaves one with a slight tremble.
You do need good earphones to listen and get a proper experience. It is something that I was complaining about earlier this week that one cannot find anything that is not adulterated or for profit in this world that can help us.

Thank you, keep it up.

Byron Alblas

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